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this was uh Tuesday morning I just got

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off work at two o'clock there have been

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a

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morning

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and uh I started up over a big hill

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there on the road and I saw this uh

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orange red glow in the sky uh something

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like a fire and I thought maybe

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lightning had struck a house earlier

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that night and the house was on fire

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and uh I slowed down uh immediately

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expecting to see fire trucks in this as

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I topped the hill

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off to the left hand side of the road

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that would be the South Side uh an

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orangish red object which appeared to be

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a cone shaped with a brown sphere on top

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it was about 25 feet tall and maybe 12

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feet wide at the base it appeared to be

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hovering over the ground maybe two feet

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at the most if at all

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I just attracted my attention and I was

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staring at it and driving at the same

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time and just out of our normal habit I

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glanced back at the street

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saw four maybe five there were four at

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least of these but what appeared to be

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people from this ship

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they were running back and forth across

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the street and I uh saw that they didn't

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recognize my presence there the

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headlights or the noise from my car or

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anything

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and they didn't stop running across in

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front of me and I slammed on my brakes

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because I saw I would hit them and as I

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slammed onto my brakes my car was

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skidding and I heard this loud thump

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and I maybe went eight to ten feet

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further after the impact with this uh

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object that I hid

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I immediately I started to get out of

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the car as just a first reaction when

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you hit something in the street

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that that I thought that that was all

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wrong to get out of the car so I sped

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away down the street and as I started

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away I looked in the rearview mirror to

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catch a glance and these objects had

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then stopped running or back and forth

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across the street and they were all

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standing there I couldn't see whether

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they were standing or the one that I hit

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or not but they had stopped running

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across the street

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I got home and I just kind of sat in the

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living room for a couple hours and

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thought of a million or more different

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things that it could have been or what I

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could have done

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and then I uh just went to bed

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thank you David now if you don't mind

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we'll

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um sort of talk and go over some of this

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uh you were going

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um old what would you judge you were

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going in speed uh approximately 30 miles

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an hour no more it could have been a

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little slower

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now I noticed on your automobile

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um that you have the uh there's a space

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on your grill where it is sort of spread

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apart a wee bit scratches and then one

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thing I noticed uh on the rim of your

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right headlight it is Blended too now

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all of this occurred at this time there

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was no dense there before because uh

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after seeing your car I realized you

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keep it very well in good condition now

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was this before or were there any Goods

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before to verify that uh there was only

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the one little crease there in the

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Chrome piece the rest of them were all

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made by this whatever I get in the

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street and that on the rim of your

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headlight was made when you hit whatever

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you hit yes it was now

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um we were wondering before we came out

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and of course before we saw your

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automobile

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I didn't realize it set so high and I

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thought perhaps it might uh be that the

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object you had could have gone under the

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car would you explain why uh you don't

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feel this happened

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after I started down the street I didn't

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feel any thump or anything underneath

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the car or like I'd ran over it with the

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tire I either drove uh right over it or

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it went off to the side one way or the

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other there I couldn't say which it was

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now at this time as you heard and felt

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the stump uh in the light of your

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headlight I think you said you could

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determined um

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uh some part of a figure yes it was I I

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saw a part of an arm oh maybe about four

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inches of the arm and the hand but uh

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there was no fingers on the hand only a

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thumb

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in other words you couldn't tell whether

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that could have been like a mitten or uh

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you know like encased uh a hand in case

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in a mitten or you just don't know it's

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just a quick fly is that right yes it

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was I couldn't say what it would be uh

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something that they had on their hand or

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their hand itself could you describe uh

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of course I know all of this happened in

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lack of flash uh but would you describe

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the best your ability gave uh the

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impression you had of these figures uh

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yes they were maybe three and a half to

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four feet tall uh built stockley

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somewhat on the order of a with

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the short legs and the longer arms than

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normal and the heads were uh large they

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were very large out of proportion to the

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size body that they had this could have

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been a head covering but even if it

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would have been a head covering they

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would have to make this covering so it

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fit the head and uh at that it would

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have been bigger and it was round head

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more oblong like a light bulb shape

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almost

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you've been or have you been keeping up

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with any of the UFO material that has

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been in the paper Tree in other words

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are you interested or were you

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interested in UFOs much before this

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occurred to you not so much uh every

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once in a while at work we'd have a you

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know a discussion and uh talk about

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there had to be something out there but

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no one knew what but up until I saw

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these myself I I didn't do much reading

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on it if there'd be something in the

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paper I'd Grant you a magazine and I'd

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mostly just look at the pictures I

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wasn't really that interested but now I

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started to do a lot of reading trying to